tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040841.post2363520992621529511..comments2023-09-26T07:21:40.532-04:00Comments on The Brooklyn days: Okay, that thread was getting too damn longPretty Ladyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00342833918614545778noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040841.post-57976120987140717352007-03-08T16:36:00.000-05:002007-03-08T16:36:00.000-05:00After returning from a few weeks to see what was n...After returning from a few weeks to see what was new I see that my questions sparked some debate. Painterdog has a point regarding technical competency, I do not hire non-ASE certified mechanics, I look up my doctors online before allowing them to treat me, and I ask for referrals for things like plumbers and attorneys from my friends. <BR/><BR/>However, art seems different. I bought a piece from a local artist that provoked an emotional reaction, and I put it in my study. Whether or not this particular artist went to school is irrelevant to me, (and I did not ask her credentials) I simply handed her the $120 that she asked for the piece. I did ask her a few questions about her method of shaping the metal, since I am planning on learning some rudimentary blacksmithing skills, but I did not want to know her opinion or motivation or training regarding the object.<BR/><BR/>I don't know if artistic talent can be taught, or instead is eventually revealed through hard work and discipline.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040841.post-11339689769388908182007-03-07T20:17:00.000-05:002007-03-07T20:17:00.000-05:00I think that a lack of training could give a perso...<I>I think that a lack of training could give a person the invaluable qualities of emotional honesty and directness. I have been trying for years to get rid of my art training baggage and find again why I became an artist in the first place. my children create some truly incredible work, I hope they can maintain that communication and through the minefield of education.</I><BR/><BR/>Why is it that art has to be this low low thing that is based on lack of training. Why is it any different than say being a plumber?<BR/><BR/>Let me ask you this, would you go to a doctor who thought like this or a car mechanic?<BR/><BR/>Why would anyone want to de-train themselves unless of course your a completely talentless person and need an excuse to justify the art that you do.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03014751431677271423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040841.post-65194017465173700322007-03-07T15:57:00.001-05:002007-03-07T15:57:00.001-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03014751431677271423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040841.post-54008184068435206582007-03-07T15:57:00.000-05:002007-03-07T15:57:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03014751431677271423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040841.post-23463225053274476962007-03-07T15:55:00.000-05:002007-03-07T15:55:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03014751431677271423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040841.post-20822130633421090782007-03-06T11:16:00.000-05:002007-03-06T11:16:00.000-05:00Thanks, Karen! I like yours, too!Thanks, Karen! I like yours, too!Pretty Ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342833918614545778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040841.post-20673912053496796682007-03-06T11:15:00.000-05:002007-03-06T11:15:00.000-05:00Gosh, Valerie, I'd hoped I'd seen the last of you....Gosh, Valerie, I'd hoped I'd seen the last of you.Pretty Ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342833918614545778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040841.post-11866919467005125992007-03-06T10:08:00.000-05:002007-03-06T10:08:00.000-05:00I think that a lack of training could give a perso...I think that a lack of training could give a person the invaluable qualities of emotional honesty and directness. I have been trying for years to get rid of my art training baggage and find again why I became an artist in the first place. my children create some truly incredible work, I hope they can maintain that communication and through the minefield of education. <BR/><BR/>I enjoy your blog. thanks~karenthis time roundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12978363155831940361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040841.post-55538425238709999532007-03-05T17:58:00.000-05:002007-03-05T17:58:00.000-05:00for gods sake,pluck yer eyebrows,woman-for gods sake,pluck yer eyebrows,woman-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040841.post-51754325699794328292007-03-05T17:53:00.000-05:002007-03-05T17:53:00.000-05:00!!arebourshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06129183347516811016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040841.post-75364952281664871612007-02-28T17:18:00.000-05:002007-02-28T17:18:00.000-05:00Thanks so much for shattering my naivete. I did n...Thanks so much for shattering my naivete. I did not know who Jeff Koons was, and now I very much wish I still did not.<BR/><BR/>If that's <EM>avant garde</EM> it may well be enough to make me throw myself heartily into the production of "kitsch".Desert Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13656526816699347744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040841.post-26024816555255522022007-02-20T15:01:00.000-05:002007-02-20T15:01:00.000-05:00PL - Thanks for the detail on the painting surface...PL - Thanks for the detail on the painting surfaces, it explains a lot. I am not planning on painting anything - I could never even draw "Tippy" - but was curious about the mechanics of it.<BR/><BR/>I do like "Curtain" despite my misunderstanding of it's basic mechanics. I'd like to see it now that it's finished, if you don't mind posting it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040841.post-6175049979435146342007-02-20T10:07:00.000-05:002007-02-20T10:07:00.000-05:00She sez:Pipe down, you guys, okay? Take your Gambl...She sez:<BR/><I>Pipe down, you guys, okay? Take your Gamblin war outside. I mean it. Life is too short.</I><BR/><BR/>Oh come now. We haven't even reached a third of the usual <A HREF="http://anonymousfemaleartist.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Anonymous Female Artist</A> length.<BR/><BR/>And anyway, it's important. I want to learn.<BR/><BR/>I didn't address Crom's questions because I knew you'd cover it. I'd just add this brilliant quote from Robert Hughes on <A HREF="http://www.artchive.com/artchive/R/ryder.html" REL="nofollow">Albert Pinkham Ryder</A>, who you mentioned in the previous thread and who is, coincidentally, making an appearance in the comic strip <A HREF="http://joshreads.com/?p=956" REL="nofollow">Apartment 3G</A>:<BR/><BR/><I>Though his color was rich, he drew feebly. The convention is to treat this as Ryder's good luck, as though it permitted his native, visionary qualities to prosper, unsullied by academic convention. But the truth is that his figures and animals never benefited from his awkwardness. Ill schooled in anatomy, he spent no time looking at bodies and analyzing their structure. His men and women looked like slugs.</I>Chris Rywalthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15766746064219235983noreply@blogger.com